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SlickNCGhia
27-11-2008, 05:02 PM
Seen a couple of half posts about it and have been searching places like racetech ect. But I thought I would get the experts advise.

Just checked my Sag with me not wearing gear. I know i should gear up but its fucking hot and id feel like a clown lol

Rear.
Top --------602mm
Unladen----578mm
MEonit------532mm

Front
Top---------322mm
Unladen----280mm
Meonit------258mm

which gives a sag (measuring from topped out to meonit???)

Rear 70mm
Front 64mm

static sag (i think thats the term)

Rear 24mm
Front 38mm


Bike is 03ktm 525exc. Stock suspension i believe (chime in if its not JB)
Rider is 6"2 ~ 75kg + gear (wasnt wearing it)

i guess its a bit softer than some of you hardcore guys ride obviously.

a)how is that ball park for TT? obviously the sag would be a bit more with full gear on. + 5-10kgs??

b)Does it look particularily wrong in any particular area?

c)is the static sag too much?

d) what do you guys that do enduro and tard do with your suspension between the two?

e)what should I be adjusting to reduce/increase static sag or laden sag? (jeez im really making up terms here lol)

ok if thats too many questions or its been covered too many times feel free to tell me to get stuffed.

oh and is reasonably well track setup streetable or will it be too hard edged? im not worried if its just a bit stiff.

Cheers Guys
Ben

BoneGraft
27-11-2008, 06:24 PM
Without your gear you'll be too soft on preload when ready to ride. Gear up and i'll bet you need to remove about 15mm of rear Meonit sag and this will get ya static sag close to zero. All good.
At 75kg + gear you are about the ballpark average the manufacturer looks to cater for.
Front sag really needs to be done dry with no seals to be accurate due to seal drag, so front sag is a bitch to set with a ready to ride bike.
Set the rear first then look to balance the way the bike sits when pogo-ing on it with front sag.
To adjust rear sag lift the rear wheel off the ground, lube the threads on the shock body with some CRC and wind the spring collar up or down to adjust pre-load. It may have a pinch bolt so check for that first and loosen if there.
I don't know if you forks have pre-load adjustable caps or if you need to use spacers on top of the fork springs. Maybe one of the KTM guys can chime in here.
Set all clickers to neutral front and rear when you do this so damping isn't confusing the issue.
Don't know about a TT specific setup but I think this would get you close.
And yes, it'll be stiff on the street.

Correct anything here if I'm wrong guys, I'm new to motards.

Wobbly
28-11-2008, 08:20 AM
Your in the ballpark - for track & road use probably around the 80mm level of rear sag is about right...

SlickNCGhia
28-11-2008, 09:29 AM
i figured i was in the ball park for a bit of best of both worlds with the rear.

hows the front though. i have no idea on what front sag should be

JB
28-11-2008, 09:44 AM
Correct it is stock.

A few of the boys helped me set it for my weight (95 with Gear) at TT - Thanks to; Kyle, Paul and Mark.

JB

SlickNCGhia
28-11-2008, 10:14 AM
i figured i would try and conjole a few of them into that.

you would think with you having a good 10-15k on me then it would be a bit hard rather than a bit soft

megahead
28-11-2008, 06:39 PM
i figured i would try and conjole a few of them into that.

you would think with you having a good 10-15k on me then it would be a bit hard rather than a bit soft

I'll have my tools as always and give you a hand to set it up

:D

Gonzo
02-12-2008, 08:03 PM
Talking of rider sag, I always had MX style rider sag - 80-90mm

I had a suspension expert (Stewart Winton from SM Racing) set me up for motard tarmac riding - he set it to 45mm.

I tested it on the spot at Mt Hotham (our club had him staying with us for 36 hrs). He made a couple of little fine tunes, but it was much better after he had touched it. No, not much better - HEAPS better.

shane
02-12-2008, 08:08 PM
MX 100 , Sx 85-90 , SM 60-65