WRF250 Motard.

[Muzzard]

I have decided to up the power stakes and chase a bigger bike.
Would like to give the advantage to someone here first obviously if they are looking for a small bore well built and serviceable motard for either first motard or urban blasting.
My WRF has as most of you know quite a few kms on the chassis components but are still in serviceable order and mostly unmarked or polished.
The engine was rebuilt with a new crankshaft assembly and all bearings, seals etc to rebuild it to within specification 12 months ago and the bike has done quite a few track days as well.
Always meticulously maintained and serviced,
Comes with a range of both aftermarket and Yamaha stock items, including whole sets of blue plastics YZF/WRF combinations, hour meter/tacho, and filters, exhaust etc.
No dirt wheels...
PM for info or you can see the bike yourself at the GPTC/VSMR Track Days
and speak to me then.
Sorry spare engine sold...
Most recent picture for those who dont know the bike.

http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/DSC_2514.jpg

[SMC690]

The scottish bloke on the left is pointing and laughing at the Kawasaki, I swear. ;)

This mootard with current pilot creams the lot of us to be honest. :)

[dangermouse1100]

Fastest cow i've ever seen :D

[Daws]

I'm pretty sure I wasn't laughing at the mighty KDX, it must have been the lumpy aftermarket pipe!

Anyway, keeping this on topic - I'd love that bike (does it come with the riding skills?) I can't justify another bike in the shed at this time though. It's the cleanest WRF I have ever seen.

[Wobbly]

For anyone who hasn't seen this bike, muzz is quite possibly the most anal person I have ever met when it comes to bike maintenance and the WRF is a true reflection of this :)

[Sibbo]

The above pic does not do it justice, it is one very clean bike and looks 1000% better in real life.

How many bickies do you want for it Muzz?





Packet of ginger nuts and 1/2 a pac of mint slices? (sorry, cant help myself, have to be puerile). :roll:

[Muzzard]

The above pic does not do it justice, it is one very clean bike and looks 1000% better in real life.
How many bickies do you want for it Muzz?
Packet of ginger nuts :roll:

Looking for around $7000 with all the extras,
But are open to reasonable offers though Brett.
And you can keep your ginger nuts to yourself,
I thought you were strawberry blonde! :lol:

[Sibbo]

And you can keep your ginger nuts to yourself,
I thought you were strawberry blonde! :lol:
Hey you wont find one of the dreded ginger hairs growing out of my body, as I am blond....I have to pick the occasional red one out of my mouth :D Poor ginger girls will take anything they can get! hahaha

[speaksgeek]

Most definately the cleanest bike I've ever seen. Here is another pic from 2 weeks before that one, and we all saw him actually ride the thing in between. Hi-Res image linked so you can zoom in on the detail for yourself. (beware 2MB)
http://www.speaks.geek.nz/gallery2/images/Mootard.jpg

http://www.speaks.geek.nz/gallery2/images/MootardSmall.jpg

[dangermouse1100]

I've got a big enough back yard to agist it on, bloody big orchard just up the road too :lol: If i had the money i'd make it mine

[SM93]

fuck thats clean, if i seen my bike down can u make mine that clean ?

what are u using axle sliders btw ?

[Muzzard]

You ride it Jove,
You clean it :lol:

The sliders are made from internally threaded polymer rod from the local engineering supplies and stuck onto a piece of threaded each end 10mm mold steel rod.
One on the front is bolted direct to the axle end with a stud, the other side bolted to a profiled plate bolted under the axle pinch bolts.
More for the looks and just in case.
I hate falling off.
Scratches my bike. ;)

[kroosn]

lol just a hint when you link to this website on ebay although its a great idea and all the first thing people see is the bike doing a wheelie on the home page, lol. unless offcourse your trying to sell it as a stunter.

Kroosn

[Muzzard]

And the ad also freely admits lockwiring etc to GCR, that the bike has done track days. ;)

[SMC690]

I didn't see the bit in the bible that said I or others couldn't wheelie. :)

If ye olde WR 2fiddy can pop the front up then it's got some stick then innit?
This bike is not for a girls blouse.
Are you making people fill out application forms to buy it Muzz?
I can vet them if you like. ;)

[Muzzard]

I would stongly recommend an Ambulance Subscription
if goes to a new rider :lol:

[Flash]

I can say with no doubt that it is a fast bike!! I can't really pull it in down the straight on my 610 and only just on my 450.

[Sibbo]

I would stongly recommend an Ambulance Subscription
if goes to a new rider :lol:
If it is similar to a crf 250, it should be nice and smooth. A perfect for a new rider, as it would be very easy to ride, cos its not going to bite you if you get it a bit wrong, like a biger bike will do.

[Muzzard]

As the colour scheme didnt appeal to all I have changed it again.
Now it looks like this,

http://vsmr.net/albums/WR250F/Left_Side_Medium.sized.jpg
http://vsmr.net/albums/WR250F/Right_Side_Medium.sized.jpg

Same price.
Looking for $7000.
Has a white long range tank with black shrouds, 2 spare blue rear guards, 1 black, 2 spare headlight units, assorted other plastics and tyres,
spare 320 Wave rotor (new) and an alloy race stand.

[Wobbly]

And bling bling airbox sticker :D

[Sibbo]

And the cred that the rims have been used by me in my 250 stroker, that worth at least $500.00

[Muzzard]

There is room for negotiation if you are standing back because of the pricetag.
Feel free to PM me an offer. ;)

[gsand]

Hey Muzzard.

Tried sending you a PM, but it was coming up with garbage errors.

Firstly, is interstate transport avaliable?
Secondly, Is the bike fully legal, except slicks, because If sent here I think it requires an inspection to be registered
and third, in your honest opinion, do you think this would be a reliable daily rider.

Thanks mate, I'm interested in it, we'll just have to see how it goes.


edit: by 'here' i mean adelade.

[deegan05]

hi mate just wondering is the bike currently rego'd? also is the bike e-start? cheers

[Flash]

Muzz is currently having some internet issue's but I can answer for him. it has electric start and is registered! You need to see this bike to appriciate it! It would be in better condition than new and I'm serious and I think everyone on her who has seen it will agree!!

[Flash]

If you want to call him PM me I have his numbers

[gsand]

Thanks, If you could PM me is number that would be great.

[Muzzard]

Yep.
Between Telstra and Optus they can both go and fuck themselves :shock:

Ash answered for me and I think I may have PM'ed you both in return yesterday.
Net is back until they fuck it again :roll:

[Flash]

Never got to PM you sorry deegan

[gsand]

Muzzard just dropping in to say that I havent forgotten about this bike....

Still interested + should have finances soon If everything goes according to plan :D

[Muzzard]

No problem mate.
Its not going anywhere in a hurry by the looks of it,
Except past Sibbo ;)

[Sibbo]

No problem mate.
Its not going anywhere in a hurry by the looks of it,
Except past Sibbo ;)
better be careful there, the berg might have a brake problem and turn the little cow into an T-bone steak. :twisted:

[Muzzard]

So what would a 96 model TL1000R with 30000kms, pretty well unmarked bodywork and a pair of Yoshi mufflers be worth you blokes :?:

Would/Should I swap it for my 2003 WRF250R with high mileage but clean chassis and running gear, near new engine, and all the Yamaha bits I have :?:

Before you even start with shit about Tupperware etc.
Its all fucking removable too :twisted:

[speaksgeek]

Might be easier to convert into cash...

Don't really know how much though, 6000?

[dangermouse1100]

Might be a bit big to get around TT Muzz :shock:

[Wobbly]

The TL-R's are a bit of a tank compared to the TL-S, even without the spaceship bodywork. But as angus says, might be easier to convert to cash.

What year and how many k's on the TL? They do seem to keep their value pretty well, all the ones on the trading post at the moment are at least $8k, but there's only 12 listed aus wide so maybe not a great sample...

[Daws]

TL-Rs have a bit of a cult following (a bit like motards but for a different reason!) and as Angus said it would probably be easier to convert into cash.

I like 'em they look big and chunky but that's because they are!

[JB]

Nothing says GANGSTA like a TLR (except an escalade with 22"+ chromes and dropped on its guts).
I like the look of em saw a nice blue one in the city this morning, double bubble reflective visor.
Pauls right its bit of a following, I compare it to the busa contingent.

Not sure how they ride, bit bulky ive been told.

I think theres a well priced one in Melbourne at the moment, not sure what year but its about 6-7K, ill find out more and post.

Jorn

[husabang01]

so how much do you want for this tl1000r???
i need a road bike

[devo]

Muzz, Red Book goes back to 1998. http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/mcycle/prices.php?key=SUZU98TB

$7000-$8300

[Muzzard]

Thanks for the input boys.
Its a really clean example (As if I would ride a piece of shit anyway, being the anal bastard I am)
Its chunky alright and thats the appeal.
I like the TL-R and like you said Jorn,
Its a cult bike too as far as I am concerned and the lack of them on the ground for sale would also be indicative of that.
Sure they are a big reasonably heavy sportbike.
But one with some 'cred' and not too shabby on performance in the hands of someone with some bike skill.
Pillion capable is nice if I choose to own it, coupled with Interstate capabilities at the drop of a hat to see one my daughters, and pick up the other from Melbourne a shit load cheaper than the ute.
Will look at / ride the bike early next week so that will be the tell ;)

Coincidentally my 21 year old son blew the engine again on the little CR125 I had intended to convert for some track motard action if I took on the TL-R, so it might be even fresher by the time it gets onto TT with some little fat red wheels :)

[Muzzard]

Doesnt look like the fella will want to part with his TLR under my terms so the Mootard is still in the verandah.
Its not so much he wont accept the motard as a trade but he doesnt want to take a dive on his TLR that he paid way too much for 6 months ago.
He will be back no doubt when more people tell him,
'Nice bike, worth $7250'

Would like to move the WRF all the same.
Still no-one looking for an ADR fully prepared motard,
Possible first licence holder :roll:

[QDogg]

I think the TLR would be perfect for the odd interstate trip, but when push comes to shove, the chassis and rear shock just wont perform and then there's the weight factor of the porky beast as well. I guess it depends on how hard you want to push it.

Having ridden a couple, I wasn't overly impressed, (massive amounts of clutch/throttle to lift the front skywards) but that boomin v-twin note can and will cloud any reasonable doubt everytime!

And like you say...In the right hands......(with a few tweaks) :twisted:

[Wobbly]

Methinks if you want a TL ... get a TL-S and replace the rear shock....

[Daws]

Still thinking about the TL?...

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8152/tl10001024x768la5.th.jpg

full pic... http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tl10001024x768la5.jpg

From Performance Bikes mag

[ACS]

ouch. That's going to hurt in the morning...

[SMC690]

ouch. That's going to hurt in the morning...

A girl said that to me once.
Just after she let me stick....nah, never mind. ;)

[QDogg]

Damn those stunt riders are pushing the limits these days! :roll:

[deegan05]

hi muzz, sorry i havent got in contact with you, still wanting a motard but doing house reno's at the moment :cry: .had a look at a sherco 4.5i motard at my local dealer today and made me want a tard oh so much.just wondering what is the seat height of your wr? i'm only short and struggle to touch the ground on my xr250(in dirt trim) i know they are lowered but was just wondering by how much? also do you have road legal tyres to go with it? cheers deegan

[Muzzard]

Hi Mate,
Seat height with 0mm sag = 910mm.
Yes I have road tyres for the bike,
They are currently fitted and there are some slicks, a couple of ADR compliant tyres, a long range tank, stock pipe, spare piston, rings, valve stem oil seals, assorted plastics, spare headlights, tailights, indicators, tubes, and anything else Yamaha that I find in the shed.

Those Sherco's are right off and very nicely finished.
Which dealer did you see the SM prepared bike in :?:

[ZuluFoot]

Still thinking about the TL?...

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8152/tl10001024x768la5.th.jpg

full pic... http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tl10001024x768la5.jpg

From Performance Bikes mag

Is that a new stunt Paul? aint seen it before, he must be pretty supple to pull that off :)

[deegan05]

i saw it in TAREE MOTORCYCLES in NSW, the bloke who owns the shop, Glenn, is using it as a track bike, he used to have a sherco 4.5i enduro but wanted to have a go at motard. he won the AUS champs a few years ago in road racing and competes in the BEARS class on a norton now i think? pretty quick on a bike and a top bloke too !
they also have a new xr400 motard in there but it looks cheap and nasty to me.

[Muzzard]

Bump to the Taree M/C Club boys ..
Phil your esteemed El Presidenta had a bo-peep on Saturday at Calder thought it was well presented and went well.
Its all there and looking for a young bloke to love it.
If the price puts you off,
PM me an offer ;)

[Muzzard]

This is still waiting for someone to take it home.
Will consider swap for road bike like JimmyB ;)

[tingo]

is it still available for sale?

I am new to motard... considering... either the new wr250x or this one.

where about are you?
can you show a few more photos?

[OwenS]

is it still available for sale?

I am new to motard... considering... either the new wr250x or this one.

where about are you?
can you show a few more photos?

Nope its mine now. Muahahahaha

Heres a pic. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii312/oschebell/Otard.jpg

The 250x looks sweet. Riquez just bought one.

[tingo]

haha...ok...

btw, is motard a good commuter? how is the fuel consumption like? and maintenance?
should i get the wr250x or a used KTM?
I am looking for a fun, cheap and reliable commuter... had a 2 stroke 135cc before... then a 50cc scooter :lol: ...
then a 100cc scooter and a 883 harley at the same time... sold the harley (too heavy) and riding the 100cc scooter now...
Commuting around 40km everyday...

How stable and reliable is a 250 motard on freeway?
Duke III might be a better choice? is Duke a motard too?

[OwenS]

In terms of commuting in the city i cant think of a better commuter than a motard. Good handling, brakes, suspension, field of view, comfort.
The new 250x is fuel injected, 4 valve so maintenance will be pretty low. The 250f models are more racey and so will need a lot more maintenance.
I had the ktm640sm before the yamaha, ultra reliable. Personally not as fun cos it was a bit too much engine for me to begin on.
I think the 250x would be the way to go imo.
The suzuki drz400sm as well, though i dont really like them that much.

Come on guys? Help a brother out!

[tambi]

Stretch will be able to sort you out

[tingo]

thanks guys!

being a poor bloke, so I cannot have more than one bike... this makes it really hard to decide what to get and keep... true?

My main reason for getting a motard is daily commuting "VERY ACTIVELY"... :lol:
Current commuter is a Yamah Aerox 100 scooter... zippy, fun but slow (top - 80km/h)... rev to redline all time... :oops:

have to have a fun and fast one as this is my only mean of transport... beside my pushbike. :D

[OwenS]

Maybe 640sm then. Loads of power and reliability.

[STRETCH]

i rekon if ya havin fun with a 100cc aerox the 250 will be a blast.
owen which bike are you enjoying more?

[OwenS]

i rekon if ya havin fun with a 100cc aerox the 250 will be a blast.
owen which bike are you enjoying more?

They yamaha. Much more like a race supermoto. I cant stop doing wheelies though so thats bad :lol:

[Wobbly]

A motard is the perfect commuting bike. Seriously, so much fun you'll run the risk of being arrested :lol2:

[STRETCH]

A motard is the perfect commuting bike. Seriously, so much fun you'll run the risk of being arrested
+1

[tingo]

cool...

what I have read about maintenance on the Aprilia... kind of put me off a bit :P .... but then that's Apes.... :lol:

ok... more questions...
would i be able to keep up with the traffic on freeway?
would it kill the engine if i have it doing 120km/h on freeway for 3 hours non-stop? or it kills my butt first?!

as i mentioned before, this is my only mean of transport... although i do have a 25 years old exa turbo... but it is not registered and not going :P

Stretch, would you take my aerox100 as trade-in? :)

[OwenS]

You can always change the gearing.

[tingo]

hmm...
so, the stock gearing won't do the freeway for 3 hours?

how comfy is the seat?

[OwenS]

Well im not sure what the stock gearing is. But you could always get it then get a new sprocket, they are like what, $25?
If youre doing long distance commutes you might want a bigger engine than a 250. But its all a trade off, bigger engine means higher weight which means less flickability which is pretty much what motards are about....well i like that aspect anyway.

[SM93]

why on earth would u want to ride 3hrs on a highway??????

if thats something u do all the time a 250 won't be suitable and probably not any motard except maybe a 950 ktm

[OwenS]

Or a hayabusa

[tingo]

i do need to goonto the freeway sometime... like, a ride to philip island... grampians... etc. :D

might be getting a 250x and ride it back from adelaide soon... silly idea?

[OwenS]

If youre keen to do it then its not silly at all. Good bonding time. It wont be pleasant but its your choice. I would do it. But thats just me i guess, i like a challenge :lol:

[Wobbly]

If you don't find a ride down the coorong, over to warrnambool and down the great ocean road pleasant then there's something wrong with you :shock: :lol2:

[OwenS]

Pleasant on his ass i mean! Unless..........no, too early for assumptions.

[Greeny]

Wear some padded bike shorts under your pants and stand up on the pegs every now and again with a break every couple hours and it wont be so bad..
Can put money on it that the pain will magically disappear when you get to some corners though

[tingo]

as long as the ride is not BORING... i don't care how my butt feels... haha

almost bought the 2008 Z1000 last month, but i pulled out last minute...
not really into the speed on straight... although it is pretty good in corners too but still prefer something lighter.

my aerox 100 is fun... but kind of upset me on the straight... cut off at 8500rpm... 85kn/h only :( seeing the cars overtaking me one by one... even some very old corollas or barinas...

would there be a 450x coming out soon? that would be perfect? :D