GPTC Track Day 25th Nov 06

[Muzzard]

Another one rolling around and the second last for the year.
Another BBQ lunch I'm presuming.
I have a couple of take off front tyres for Daves DR to bring,
Sibbos slider/stickers and Ash's Crankcase Catch Bottle from Steve.
Broom and shovel for the dirt, povvo tent for some shade and a couple of chairs.
While we are there this trackday,
Wondering how many would like to walk the area and put together a bit of a rough layout for the new dirt section to go in there in January or thereabouts.

Dave (Dangermouse) I can pick you up at the G.V. Hwy overpass at Seymour if you want mate.
Should get there about 8.45am and load the DR, save you maybe 150 odd kms in the saddle.

So who's a definite and are we wanting dirt too...

[Sibbo]

No can do for me, the berg wont be going by then.

Could I get you to give my allocated pipe slider and stickers to Ash/Neil, so I can pick them up from either of them.

[Bomber640]

I'd love to get out there, but I usually have custody of my son on Saturday's so its's hard to swing...

Could you use one of these on the dirt section? Have a look at what's caught up in the scoop in the 2nd and 3rd photo's...
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/a-look-back-worlds-largest-digger

[Muzzard]

No can do for me, the berg wont be going by then...
Whats wrong with it now?

He only a little fella Bomber?
I've had my time with all that mate and its a difficult road to travel.
I understand 100%.
See you when you can then ;)
We will be having a ride night hopefully on the (Friday night) 15th December
for a get together before the track day for blokes like you that cant always get the Saturday free.
That will be in another thread in Motard Rides shortly.

[Sibbo]

Whats wrong with it now?
I binned it and need to fix/replace some stuff.

[Muzzard]

Whats wrong with it now?
I binned it and need to fix/replace some stuff.
You been playing with the stunters again behind our backs mate?
Or did you find the Reefton Spur just too slippery for you early in the morning?

[Sibbo]

Or did you find the Reefton Spur just too slippery for you early in the morning?
Reefton got me about lunchtime. Not quite true, I got me about lunchtime, cos it was all my fault. I just f%*ked up.

[Muzzard]

Hope you weren't by yourself cause I have had mates die on that road solely because of the isolation factor after having an accident.
Not the smartest thing to do mate.
So you OK obviously unless its the laptop from the Austins Spinal Unit your on.
And the bike is fucked where?

You do know we have regular track days so you can fuckup all you like with someone to pick up the bits in a controlled environment ;)

[Sibbo]

Nar, I was with a few road bike mates (who I whooped, but was never able to whoop on my road bikes before, so matards are faster).

I am fine, right wrist is a bit sore (but that could be other things[read other posts people!!]).

The worst part is that the bark busters and mirrors combined to break my clutch line. The mirror made the perch spin and drag the line across the bark buster bar mount (bark busters dont offer tripple clamp options for berg/ktm) sending fluid everywhere and rending me clutchless. So I need a new line.

Managed to bend the magura fat bars. So I am getting something else, with a lower bend.

Broke the gear shift lever, scratched the plastics and a bit on the pipe, but not too bad. Killed the peg slider and my skatey wheel on the swingarm. It left this big blue line down the road, it did look really cool!

So my punishment is no track day this w/e and not enough damage to warrent an insurance claim.

[Sibbo]

You do know we have regular track days so you can fuckup all you like with someone to pick up the bits in a controlled environment ;)
I know. :oops:
But I cant beat my road bike mates at South Morang and I have been talking up motards for so long and I just had to punish them. But it would of been better if I did not have a DNF. :cry:

[Muzzard]

There is no substitute for experience Brett.
You just stick with us and do a few more road rides
before racing your other mates on the Reefton of all places
and you will live long enough to get that sponsorship and pitgirl
you always wanted... ;)

[Sibbo]

you will live long enough to get that sponsorship and pitgirl
you always wanted... ;)
There is that carrot to keep me heading in the right direction ;)

[Daws]

I'm in but I'll be a later addition as I have a prior arrangement on Friday night. I also promised a lady friend I would go out with her on Saturday daytime but I'm sure she'll understand if I cancel - The sacrifices I make for you guys!

[SM93]

tell her to come as your pit girl :lol:

[ZuluFoot]

Hmmm, I'm still trying to get out of my commitment to take the family to Phillip Island for the weekend, I promised months ago, but I'm trying very hard not to find accomodation, and push it forward a week :roll: watch this space.

[coledog]

sdf

[coledog]

oops above.

Ill be there earlyish, as ive got a wedding on at 3:45pm in yarra glen so ill have to cut away a bit early ... like 3:30.....

how long will it take from Croydon/Ringwood to get to the track?

Ta

[Muzzard]

I would leave an hour to get across to Yarra Glen from the GPTC Coley and about 40mins from Croydon to get to there...

[coledog]

straight from GPTC ....rock up to the wedding in my black dragon jeans and a fresh shirt...

[Wobbly]

Wear leathers to the wedding :twisted:

[Flash]

I'll help mark out a dirt section :twisted: :D


SIbbo hows the peg?

[Wobbly]

Oh, and I'll be there with the green weenie. Dirt is fine, its weenie enough even for me :)

[dangermouse1100]

Thanks Muzz, will pm you in the next coupla days when i know for sure whats happening.

[Flash]

You driving Neil? :D

[MarkeeMark]

Hey guys I'll swing by for a little bit after lunch. My thumb is still sore as, haven't riden since the 11th and I'm trying to get better for the last day on the 16th Dec.
Would love to help walk out the new offroad section too.

[Wobbly]

Mmmmmmight be ;)

[Flash]

Muzz all I have to say is step up, table top, double/triple and some whoops :D

[Wobbly]

Just to play devils advocate ;) I'd say anything that we come up with has to be attractive to the novice/non-dirt rider as well since these are probably the larger amount of people attracted to motarding. For that reason if people want a more challenging layout (which I'd say is any one including whoops or any sort of rhythm section) we should design for an alternate line that doesn't necessitate this, similar to how they have had in the guidon d'or.

[Sibbo]

SIbbo hows the peg?
What peg?

[MarkeeMark]

Neil chicken lines would always be par for the course.

[MarkeeMark]

Neil chicken lines would always be par for the course.

[ZuluFoot]

Whoops suck! no fucking whoops ok! anything but whoops :evil:

OK, looks like I'm in, but they still aint got a wiring harness in the country for my towhitch, so might have a problem getting there again, will have to lend my mates Ute if all else fails.

[Muzzard]

Hit the nail on the head Neil.
There would be an alternative line that is bypass the jumps most likely depending on space we have available.
There will be no whoops or rythym section either.
If you want that, ride your motard at Broadmeadows.
Like I said previously and Neil just reinforced it, must be rideable for all levels.
There will be a step up style jump and a table top.
The step up will be able to be doubled for the faster riders and the novices/intermediate skill level riders will still be able to go over them without upset.
We will have a look at the possibilities on Saturday.

[Sibbo]

Is it possible to have the jumps really close the the exit of the corner, so you have to get really good drive out of the corner to jump it cleanly.

It will be hard at first, but it will encourage people to try and put the power down early on the dirt, to get the desired speed to clear the jump. It will also leave more room for people to brake/crash before the next corner.

Also, if it is possible to have big wide sweeping berms and a tight flat inside line. This will give a good passing spot for thoes more confidant on dirt and leave the less confidant to use the big fat berm to rail it around with heaps of confidance for the next jump.

[shane]

did you see the supermoto last week ??? they had 2 lines out of a right hander . the inside had a small jump that they rolled them jumped a double . the out side line they trippled , i think that is a geat idea we plan on doing the same in our dirt section over here

[Sibbo]

No I did not see it.

The jumps would be ace! I can just see Neil doing stuff like that!

[shane]

give the man who wears skirts a pm , i think he knows a friend that has a cousin who's sisters boyfriend knows where you can download it from .

[Muzzard]

Is it possible to have the jumps really close the the exit of the corner, so you have to get really good drive out of the corner to jump it cleanly.
It will be hard at first, but it will encourage people to try and put the power down early on the dirt, to get the desired speed to clear the jump. It will also leave more room for people to brake/crash before the next corner.
We want people to stay on the bike, not crash it wheelspinning up to a non achieveable, or get crossed up in the process of leaving the ground,
So no there will be no jumps close to any corners.
Wanna ride SX, go to Tooleen.
There will be berms and flat areas inside though, and the possibility of the double with the step up.

[Sibbo]

give the man who wears skirts a pm , i think he knows a friend that has a cousin who's sisters boyfriend knows where you can download it from .
Work will crack the sads again, if I continue to use their bandwidth, well exceed it by huge amounts!

[Sibbo]

So no there will be no jumps close to any corners.
:cry:

[ZuluFoot]

Yipee!

Got my new front brake pads, 14t sprocket, dot5.1 fluid, extra masterlink (to get my chain back to its original length after cutting it too short :oops: ) and wiring harnes fitted to my car, so I can tow my trailer.

So, a few tweaks and I'm ready for action on Saturday :twisted: :twisted:

[SMC690]

So no there will be no jumps close to any corners.
:cry:

If you clear the ahem 'tabletop' then the next corner is close enough! Aaargh.
This dirt stuff aint too bad after all. ;)

I will try & make it Saturday.

[Flash]

Fair enough on the jumps close to the exits and no whoops but a good Rhythm section would be good. If we put something there that can't really be rolled at a reasonable speed then a chicken track should be involved.

[Flash]

Hey Neil can you bring your "c" spanner so I can play with the pre load if required?

[Wobbly]

Yep, though it'll be up to you to remind me to bring it ;)

[shane]

Hey Neil can you bring your "c" spanner so I can play with the pre load if required?
hey flash , have you set your rider sag yet ?? as yours is a track /street bike about 80mm should do the trick

[Flash]

I haven't yet I'll be making some changes on Friday night over a cold beer. :D

[Sibbo]

Hey Neil can you bring your "c" spanner so I can play with the pre load if required?
hey flash , have you set your rider sag yet ?? as yours is a track /street bike about 80mm should do the trick
What would you run a track bike at for static and rider?

[shane]

static or free sag , really depends on your body weight as i am a fat bastard i need a heavy rear spring rate as just winding a lighter spring up will make the shock blow through the dampening ,i have my rider sag set at 70 .with that my free sag is topped out ,i have read where rider sag and free sag should be like 75-20 that might work if your 140 dripping wet but with us pie eaters its never going to happen

[Sibbo]

i have read where rider sag and free sag should be like 75-20 that might work if your 140 dripping wet but with us pie eaters its never going to happen
140 pounds you are talking about I hope!

What about front end sag?

[shane]

sorry it was 140 pounds , i cant remember off hand as i have set it since the start of the year ,ill check my little black book and let you know .
the front we normally set off the back so it blances and use the little rubber o-ring around the fork tube to check the travel , we set these up then just checked the free sag .

[Sibbo]

Thanks.

[Muzzard]

Well after just going to the bank,
I find a certain fucking Government Department has once again helped itself to my income for this month,
So I cannot attend this weekend cause they took nearly the lot...
Cant wait til my kids are all grown up.
They can fund my retirement. :roll:
Or pay for the burial when I starve to death before then...

[Wobbly]

Fark, that's no good mate :(

[Flash]

There's alway's a bed some where if you need to do it on the bike mate!

[Sibbo]

There's alway's a bed some where if you need to do it on the bike mate!
There is not much shelter offered by a wr250 if you are sleeping underneath it :lol:

[Muzzard]

Looks as if I may be able to be at the track day tomorrow now.
A good friend has stepped up and offered some assistance to see it happen.
Thankyou. ;)
Will confirm tonight...

[Sibbo]

Dont forget the pipe slider (I will get it off one of the Husky boyz), so I can bling up the berg for a bit of a photo shoot....pity its scratched up more than it was.

Good to see you are in.

[Muzzard]

You got a good excuse to go and get the black plastic set then haven't you.
Don't forget to thrown in the bling billet gear lever and assorted bar bits.
Custom 'WinorBin Racing' decals...
APA pipe slider,
Then you got a bike worth taking pictures of mate.

[Sibbo]

You got a good excuse to go and get the black plastic set then haven't you.
Don't forget to thrown in the bling billet gear lever and assorted bar bits.
Custom 'WinorBin Racing' custom decals...
APA pipe slider,
Then you got a bike worth taking pictures of mate.
Dont want black plastics. I want blue and yellow, I already damaged my spare blue rear guard :( .
Cant get anything other than husaberg gear lever, cos no one makes them! :x
Custom stickers dont stick too well over scratches, or do they :?:

[Muzzard]

Gear lever from MCS steel and rebendable,
Yellow is just like all the others, lemons.
OK take some pictures then...

[Sibbo]

Gear lever from MCS steel and rebendable,
Yellow is just like all the others, lemons.
OK take some pictures then...
There is blue as well :)

MCS dont make anything that will fit. The lever comes out right at the pivot point and is quite short. I have tried to find a replacment lever and will try some more, but I dont hold too much hope.

Cant take pics at the moment, bike looks like shit with no bars on it, no clutch line and generally looking sad.

[Muzzard]

I will bring the BBQ, but need the bottle Neil.
Have some Gatorade and snags.
I think theres some coleslaw in there too.
Catch bottle and exhaust slider.
Povvo tent.
Broom and shovel.
Takeoffs for Dave ;)

Would anyone happen to have a walking measure or access to borrow one for the measuring of the dirt section?
Like the surveyors use with a wheel and the counter attached.

[dangermouse1100]

Hey guys, looking forward to more practice tommorrow, i have a case of pepsi, bread & sausages, so hoping somebody is bringing a bbq? Will c u there around 11ish.

[Muzzard]

Dave I will delete the snags then.
I haven't got them yet.
PM me mate if you think we might be doubling up a bit....
Thanks for the generous offer mate. ;)

[ZuluFoot]

Woohoo, countdown started! had a few bevvies to settle the nerves ;) gotta practice my racing lines tomorrow to make sure I whup Sibbo's Ass in the great VSMR showdown in December :D

[Muzzard]

Utes packed and facing towards the GPTC :D

[Flash]

:blob:

[Wobbly]

Ok, got the gas bottle, no probs .... quick sprocket change and brake bleed and we're all set :) See you about 9 ash :?:

[Flash]

Ummm I just got up to find you said 9am. bugger I'll run around and rip of the pillion pegs and stuff :?

[Sibbo]

gotta practice my racing lines tomorrow to make sure I whup Sibbo's Ass in the great VSMR showdown in December :D
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :cry:

[ZuluFoot]

gotta practice my racing lines tomorrow to make sure I whup Sibbo's Ass in the great VSMR showdown in December :D
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :cry:

Fear not me old rival, most of the new lines I tried were somewhat unorthodox, ask Neil :lol:

[Sibbo]

gotta practice my racing lines tomorrow to make sure I whup Sibbo's Ass in the great VSMR showdown in December :D
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :cry:

Fear not me old rival, most of the new lines I tried were somewhat unorthodox, ask Neil :lol:
Out of control were we? :lol:

[Wobbly]

Lets say that the dirt line around the outside of the hairpin at the end of the straight doesn't look quite like the fastest way around, but you've got to give props for trying it at least :lol2:

[Sibbo]

Lets say that the dirt line around the outside of the hairpin at the end of the straight doesn't look quite like the fastest way around, but you've got to give props for trying it at least :lol2:
:snigger: