South Morang GPTC 14 Oct 06

[Muzzard]

I will endevour to get in touch with the new operators this week to finalise something for the immediate future here.
All the same, with the great weather we had then other day and a BBQ too it was a really enjoyable no stress day.
Who's coming on the 14th if we are still OK to go?
And BBQ ideas?

[Wobbly]

I'll be there of course :)

As far as bbq goes, I'd recommend cooking something then eating it ;) Actually I think the pasta salad and bbq on the little 3 footer worked fine, so all I'd recommend to change is for us to do a whip around and buy muzz and tania lunch instead of the other way round :)

[dangermouse1100]

Work commitments are heavy at the moment, finances are under stress, I'm not making excuses but if i can get there i will. Yes i will second Neil's opinion, we pay for Muzz & Tania's lunch.

[SMC690]

I'm in.
Everything else can go get stuffed.
I have a few corners to work on. :)
So much for those bolt on peg sliders, I can't afford a new set every second weekend, lol. :(

[ZuluFoot]

I AM IN!!!

On condition that Jake can get the tyres to me on time, which is veeerrrrry likely right now.

So, I'll have big wheels, but they wont be knobblies, if it goes ok, might just motard the sucker

Bring it on!

[Wobbly]

:up:

[Bomber640]

I should be able to make it. Like zulufoot I'll have big wheels, but I'm busting for a go and (like zulufoot) if it works out I might be on the lookout for some little, fat wheels.

[re-entity]

Sat was great. It was good to meet everyone out there and get a feel for the supermotard scene. The no-pressure-in-your-own-time attitude is reasuring. Can't wait for next time...

[jakestein]

Not only will Murray be on the dodgy dual purpose tyres :D

I will be along with some sort of bike/camera/car/running shoes 8)

So here's to good weather and lots of elbows :twisted:

[Daws]

I'll be there - I have been studying the pics and I also have a few corners to work on (most of them!).

I'll bring some snags if someone else brings a cooking device.

[Wobbly]

I've got the camping gas bottle, and muzz's stove worked pretty good and is a bit larger than mine :up:

[jakestein]

Before anyone says "We have a chef to cook our BBQ" I am on holidays so fuck off :D

The Yamaha wheels are up for grabs if anyone can use em....if I dont get around to fitting them up :)

[Muzzard]

Ring JTR and get a price for some nice big fat stainless steel spokes and we can relace those rims to GG hubs,
I know you wanna smoke up the streets of Echuca with GG neddies mate :lol: ...

Fuck, I'd even repolish ya rims too 8) .

[Wobbly]

Ash, get out that YZ! :)

[Flash]

Ahh it's in bits! Being rebored and coated for new piston.

[Sibbo]

Its the longest re-coat in history. Its been.....a good few months now!

[Flash]

It's not been apart till last week

[Sibbo]

Its just been on the cards to be apart. Ahhh, so you had to plan to take the bike apart to fix the problem you knew you already had. That makes sense......yes?

When its fixed, you will be a nuna all the time?

[SM93]

ash have you made ur decision yet ????????


also do you have any of those pegs sliders left for the husky

[Muzzard]

Ahh it's in bits! Being rebored and coated for new piston.
I really feel sorry for you Ash,
You have spent all this money on bikes, a Husky you can't ride because its out of warranty, I would be so fucking pissed off with Husqvarna, and a YZ125 that is forever in bits having new pistons and top end rebuilds.
You never get to ride your bikes :(
All the same,
You are still welcome to come and spectate like any other member of the generally interested do Ash ;)

[Flash]

Its just been on the cards to be apart. Ahhh, so you had to plan to take the bike apart to fix the problem you knew you already had. That makes sense......yes?

When its fixed, you will be a nuna all the time?

That's the plan!!

[Sibbo]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Someone to beat! hahaha

Good stuff. How soon?

[Flash]

Ahh it's in bits! Being rebored and coated for new piston.
I really feel sorry for you Ash,
You have spent all this money on bikes, a Husky you can't ride because its out of warranty, I would be so fucking pissed off with Husqvarna, and a YZ125 that is forever in bits having new pistons and top end rebuilds.
You never get to ride your bikes :(
All the same,
You are still welcome to come and spectate like any other member of the generally interested do Ash ;)

The YZ has needed a piston for a while I just haven't had the spare cash to get it done!
The end of the day I bought a race bike to commute on it did OK considering (except the master cylinders)
If the 610 had been out I would have bought that instead!!

[Muzzard]

There out now, so did you decide on a 610 then right, you said you had sold the 450 and would decide last night so?..

[Muzzard]

Its just been on the cards to be apart. Ahhh, so you had to plan to take the bike apart to fix the problem you knew you already had. That makes sense......yes?
When its fixed, you will be a nuna all the time?
That's the plan!!

Now I'm starting to get really confused.
Ash you said to me you couldn't ride any track days firstly because you had a training run for the Nascar deal and couldn't afford to get hurt, then you said you couldn't afford to damage your bike so you couldn't bring it, and get hurt, then you said the bike was out of warranty and you didn't want to break it but ride it work like everyone else does before and after a track day.
You couldn't bring the YZ because even as far back as Sibbo borrowing the wheels from my bike, the YZ needed a rebuild but you have ridden it since several times by the posts, and when its done being rebuilt, your going to Nunawading to do MX and you could still get hurt there and ruin your chances of a Nascar deal.
You said about your Husky being a race bike etc,
My WRF isn't a traily you know mate, and did over double your Huskys k's on the first engine and was ridden every day further than you were going.
So you said you would have bought the 610, did you now, or was that just dreaming?
I just dont understand some reasoning there, but I dont have to, your the one that said these things and I am just having trouble grasping the whole concept of motorcycle usage at this bizarre level :?
Can you help me with some of these points?

[dicky]

How about if I put some stickers on the TRX and we can pretend it's a tard?
Will you ride that around lemon merangue?

Better still, I'll lend you the KTM. Might even put new rubber on it.
Whadya reckon?

dicky.

[Sibbo]

The heat is on you at the moment Ash.

I guess it will all work itself out, eventually. Give him time, just like a fine wine, greatness takes its time. Take me for example!! hahaha

[Sibbo]

How about if I put some stickers on the TRX and we can pretend it's a tard?
Will you ride that around lemon merangue?

Better still, I'll lend you the KTM. Might even put new rubber on it.
Whadya reckon?

dicky.
I will take you up on that offer :D

[Muzzard]

No heat on anyone just asking for some clarification as I am confused...
It would be nice for Ash to come to the track days I would have someone else to blow off! :twisted:

[Sibbo]

I would have someone else to blow off!
:shock: Dont go near me ever again, I dont want the risk of you trying to blow me off! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Wobbly]

Of course sibbo has a perfectly good YZ and jake has a perfectly good set of yamaha wheels that bolt straight up to a YZ.............. ;)

[SMC690]

No excuse now Ash. ;)

[jakestein]

Sibbo I will rent your Yz for 50 bucks and pay your gate fee sound ok?

I assume its in good nick and wont spill it guts out???

Ash will have to wait!!!!!

[Sibbo]

Im not worried about the YZ's guts spilling, its more yours on the 250 MX power delivery, its a bit meaner than a woosy 4 stroke and up from a 200 enduro. I dont think you could handle it.

And $50.....hmmm....your rolling on $9,000 grand worth of bike.

[jakestein]

Haha
Even if I had a worked kx500 you would say the same thing.

Dont bother then I will just get the wr out and woop your arse then :)

[Sibbo]

If you had a worked KX5, I would be slipping over in my dribble and begging for a ride!!!!!

One day I will have a big green monster....one day I tells ya, one day.

[Flash]

Now I'm starting to get really confused.
Ash you said to me you couldn't ride any track days firstly because you had a training run for the Nascar deal and couldn't afford to get hurt, then you said you couldn't afford to damage your bike so you couldn't bring it, and get hurt, then you said the bike was out of warranty and you didn't want to break it but ride it work like everyone else does before and after a track day.
You couldn't bring the YZ because even as far back as Sibbo borrowing the wheels from my bike, the YZ needed a rebuild but you have ridden it since several times by the posts, and when its done being rebuilt, your going to Nunawading to do MX and you could still get hurt there and ruin your chances of a Nascar deal.
You said about your Husky being a race bike etc,
My WRF isn't a traily you know mate, and did over double your Huskys k's on the first engine and was ridden every day further than you were going.
So you said you would have bought the 610, did you now, or was that just dreaming?
I just dont understand some reasoning there, but I dont have to, your the one that said these things and I am just having trouble grasping the whole concept of motorcycle usage at this bizarre level :?
Can you help me with some of these points?


OK not using the YZ is a combination of both injury and money! When you were lending your wheels out I had no idea the schedule for the NASCAR I could have been tested any day (almost) on top of this I needed to pull the motor apart and measure the clearance (which I needed some spare time to do and it has now been done) I haven't really been worried about being hurt on the motard but yes once the warranty ran out I was a little concerned about the 450 having a major failure. If that had happened I currently wouldn't have had the cash to repair it so that would mean I would have to walk to work. (Fat chance) On top of this if it had happened I would have had to sell it for what ever I could and buy a car. Which would mean no bike for a few years (if I would be allowed to get one at all) so do a few track days and risk not having a bike for a while, why not? Hey it will be fine you'll have 1 extra rider for a couple of weeks for sure. Now that is short term thinking isn't it. At least I come along to support almost every track day I'm not working on top of this I have been posting on several other sites to help get numbers as well!
I believe the bike would have been fine but due to the past I didn't want to risk it, OK!

I am hoping to get the YZ built in the next month or so but it still won’t be used until after November regardless (due to injury) as I have another date that I am being tested.

I have used my YZ 3 times this year and about the same last years and yes, it pisses me off. :evil: I work 6 days a week and the other is now usually taken up with working else ware. I wish I could fuck this house off


The other thing (this year) is that the NASCAR test has been dragging out, but it is due to lack of support buy the Australian companies and it now seems that the American companies are a lot more interested so things are looking good. And it's not worth doing a few days of MX If I don't know when the next time I'm required to get in a car in case I get injured.

Oh yeah If the 610 was available when I bought the 450 I would have got that! I don't know how you read that before :?

For the record I have never been scared of being injured and I am still not but I don’t want it to fuck up the first real opportunity I have had!!!

[Muzzard]

Thats what I like about you Ash,
You take it as its intended a good 'fatherly kick up the arse' and you come right back standing up straight ;)
Your a good rider to ride with at track days Ash cause you have got some really good track craft from the karts.
I dont want you to go all fucking limp now mate you been with me from the start too you know
Its about to start to happen, get the friggin 610, share some R & D with Neil, and come this way mate...

(Says as he grabs Ash by shoulder and leads him towards new Husky 610 in pits at GPTC :lol: ...)

[Flash]

It's all been a tease can you honestly see me on a fucking road bike!!!!

I ordered the 610 last week :D (on Neils recommendation)

Maybe with a road bike with a set on fatbars onit I guess

[Muzzard]

You know how when you were at school and you did shit like this, all your mates would punch you in the arm, like really fucking hard?
Well you are about to discover 'arm pump' my friend :lol:

[Daws]

Classic! Dead arms a plenty!

[Sibbo]

Ash, go home right now, as I have set a bomb at your house to go off tonight, cos you were going to buy a road bike. So you might want to disconnect it.

BASTARD!

[Wobbly]

Well, at least you can't say that nobody cares :lol2:

[Sibbo]

And the 610 does have its capacity under 600.....so we all read a bit too much into it....possibly cos we think Ash is a bit of a sook road bike rider.

[Muzzard]

Heres a mental picture for you Paul seeing you are on the ball.
Imagine so many, that Ash's arms will be so dead, his wrists will leave little furrows in the gravel... :lol:

[Sibbo]

LOL!

[Flash]

It'll be ready on Friday but I'm guessing that i'll have to pick it up on Saturday.

[SM93]

congrats ash !!!!!!!

what colour did you get????????

[Flash]

Black considered the red and white as I prefer the look but I think it's a bit loud for the street. I have enough problems with the police as it is!! :)

[SMC690]

So, your coming on the new Husky then Ash? ;)
Nice little track to run it in.

[Flash]

Nup I'm working :(

[Wobbly]

Well I found my clutch problem - all 4 springs are about 1mm under the minimum service limit :lol2: I also think they had a couple of the thrust rings/washers around the wrong way. Good news is that the friction pad thickness is still just inside the lower limit of the new spec and well up on the minimum serviceable limit. Coudn't be bothered checking the steel plates for warpage since I haven't had any shudder from it.

Will have to order up some new springs from scotty tomorrow and find out whether I can get a quick rear shock rebuild :shock: Still haven't decided on heavier springs, new forks or just some big ass bits of PVC pipe to act as preload spacers... :-k

[dangermouse1100]

Next track day is looking good, after watching the video footage i have a lot to work on, posture, seating position etc. Thanks Neil. Murray, your welcome :D , it makes a great avatar. Hopefully i can get some slides happening. The big dr needs to go on an anorexic binge, too heavy & way underpowered, am not sure whether to do the convert or wait a bit & get another bike, drz perhaps, rm would be nice too but no highway then.
Decisions, biggest decider will be how financial i am in the new year.
I'll just plod along with the beast till the gearbox blows or the motor, whichever comes first :) I intend to come a bit earlier, wont be waiting on anybody this time, just have to get myself there, extra time extra practice. Work should be under control by then, only thing that will stop me is if its raining, highly unlikely.

[jakestein]

Hey Danger unless major shit hit happens,

I can swing by with the trailer and pick you up. I am taking the gasser for a play in the dirt by the track :D (if the wr isnt in action)

[dangermouse1100]

Sounds like a great idea. :D Will be able to swap the cogs the night before instead of at the track.

[Wobbly]

Nice avatar! :lol2:

[jakestein]

Cool avatar :!:

Yeah all good. You can navigate and I will drive. Prolly a different route from merrigum.

I drive really slow and get board easly, so dont worry yourself if I have 6 redbulls and crank the Metal :twisted:

[Muzzard]

Nice avatar Dave :twisted:
Its shaping up to be a good day,
Rip off whatever you dont need to make it run on Friday mate.
Like the stand, you already left half of that and the footpegs there,
indicators if its easy and the tailpiece from the back of the guard with your number plate on.
You know what I mean mate, strip it. :twisted: And put it in Jakes trailer.
I pulled the WRF apart today to start to service it (need a tyre before friggin' oil and filter though) and thought I might also take another gearset with me for a try.
I will have to get the countershaft nut to the point I can remove it trackside since I fitted it with the rattle gun last time.
I think the 13 tooth sprocket might suit the WRF better with the 44 rear, shorten it right up so I can use a few more gears in different corners where I cant get the right revs now :roll:

[MarkeeMark]

Hey guys if all goes to plan, the weather and all, I'll be there with bells on too. I've tee'd up some leathers and boots. Now all I need is to play with my suspension setup......ie change the std settings and test ride over the next week on the street.
Also what tyre pressures are you using on the track?
Muzz I read some where you're running as low as 22psi in the front, is that just with the tyres you're using? or is it the same for road tyres as well? Also what about the rear tyre pressure?
Thanx in advance

Mark

[Wobbly]

Tyre pressures probably depend on how hard your pushing things along ... motards can run fairly low pressures due to their light weight ... I'd start at around 26 and see how you go ... as you get faster you can drop the pressures more as you'll work the tyres more and they'll get to the same hot pressure through being warmer...

[SMC690]

You have a GPR70 on the back and a 207 Sportsmax on the front Mark?
I'd be going 30-32 front and 36 rear for tarmac work with those Dunlops.
But that's just me.
I have a tyre gauge on me at GPTC so you can try both. :)
Servo next door to pump them up again.....

Edit: (Doh, Neil posted underneath me and suggested something different anyway)!!

I'm going to sit in the corner now.

[Wobbly]

That's ok mate :) I'd certainly run those pressures on the road, on the track i'd drop them down a bit, but personal preference has a lot to do with it ... I would run the GPR's at about 24-26psi on the KR1 at the island, though it tends to gerenate a fair bit of heat. The best bet is to start at a given pressure and try more or less and just see how things go :)

Fortunately there's a servo just around the corner ;)

[dicky]

I ran the Rennsports at 24psi front and rear, they were great.
I don't run the MT60R's down that far, they feel 'uncertain' below about 28.
Like Neil said, have a run, see how it feels, alter to suit.

dicky.

[speaksgeek]

Not looking good for me this time.

I've just had 7 stitches put in my elbow, so I'm off the bike until they get comfortable. Apparently next sat (track day) they should be ready to come out.

Injury wasn't bike related at all - cut it on the bottom of the pool playing underwater hockey.

[Sibbo]

Injury wasn't bike related at all - cut it on the bottom of the pool playing underwater hockey.
:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Sibbo]

Sorry, I mean, are you OK?

[Muzzard]

Mark, I run the pressures pretty low like Shane does too most of the time as on the track and one as short as GPTC you want them heating up fast, putting a big patch onto the ground and stay as warm as possible and as stable as possible to limit heat cycle case deterioration.
Most cases can be run that low, but there is the compromise of feeling sometimes a little spongy until worked up...
I weave at least 2 laps to warm the front before getting into it and it seems fine.
Rear at 24 PSI mate ;)

[MarkeeMark]

Thanx guys for all your advice. i'll see how I go and adjust them on the day. Cheers.

[jakestein]

On my new bike I think its about 14psi :D

[Muzzard]

Got a PM from Hamp today,
He's fine, been out West, and now back and putting the touches to the YZ ready for a blast around with us.

... And the next contestant Rob?
Hamp from Ballarat,
Come on down ;) ...