South Morang 30 Sep 06

[Muzzard]

And once again,
Yeah I know its Grand Final Day. :roll:
Cant cop a trick this month, 3 track days and 2 of them on weekends that clash with other interests.
All the same, I will be there again.
With 2 weeks notice now surely more than a couple of you can say to your mates when they ask "Wanna come ova an' watch the game in tha shed with a few beers?"

"Love too mate but cant make it til about 2.30, got a morning thrill with some other mates first, then I'm comin ova, make sure the piss is cold dickhead :lol: ..."

Well? Sounds feasible doesn't it?

[Wobbly]

Got any spare husky parts? :lol2:

[Muzzard]

How is the repairs progressing mate,
Held up with parts at the moment?
Still in the windowlickermobile? :lol: And the brother also stuffed up ya ridin plans too, mate you cant take a trick at the moment either can you pus bum :shock: ...

[Wobbly]

Still waitin for bits - hopefully should turn up in 2-3 weeks for the bits on back order, and am taking the opportunity to change out some bits, such as the black excel rims that will be used in lieu of the husky one as well as an increase to a 5" on the rear ;) Bro gets lumped back on a plane tomorrow and me lumpy rear end is very slowly subsiding, so things are on the mend at least :)

[SMC690]

Count me in.
Should be a good time to test the slipper if I get it in by then.
Might also stick my second set of body work on and the stock pipes.
Call me soft but if it's mud in the dirt bit's I'm going to stand on the fence and drink beer. Last time I tried I think I came off 4 times. :)

[ZuluFoot]

Muzza, I'll be there in spirit again by the looks of things, its now 10 days since they have had my barrel, still not back :evil: I've got a lot of work to do, whether I convert it, or sell it to get an LC4, looks like a long shot to get it all done in a couple of weeks, but ever hopefull!

[speaksgeek]

There's a good chance I'm in too. I couldn't care less about the final, but might still have to work.

[Wobbly]

I'll be able to watch at least, so i'll be there in one capacity or another :)

[Muzzard]

Sounds good Neil.
You got the bling bug then 'Mr Can I have it in black?' :lol:
I'm am definitelygonna get a bigger bike and are trying to decide on a single or a twin.
Either would normally be orange but can be black also. ;)
I would like to be pedalling a new one when you pick yours up.
All the same, GPTC its is 30th on the mootard again.

Dont stress out too much about dirt Justin,
We usually dont bother, its tight, and tends to slow down the pace too much.
Its about fast mate, not slow and dusty :twisted:

[shane]

neil you have more bikes {or bits of bikes} than anyone here , why are they always broken ??
whats wrong with the new 610 ?
ill be there in spirt to guys , ill be the one in the tires at the first corner
have fun with i was there , but its is our race day here so it should be a fun one over here also
cheers

[Wobbly]

Yeah, I think I have a certain effect on mechanical devices :lol2:

Husky is at the repair joint after my over-the-car-bonnet excursion the other week ;)

[Muzzard]

Angus was doing his best to stick it into whatever tyre wall he could last weekend Shane.
If he wasnt in the first couple of sessions he was doing the gardening. ;)
He never binned it though.

[Sibbo]

He never binned it though.
Wasn't trying hard enough 8)

[Muzzard]

From what I saw he did pretty well to keep it upright.
At one stage at the end of the straight he was setting for the corner and I think he thought he was going to cut me off so stood it up a bit and next minute it swung across on the headstem and he was endo-ing into the grass as I went underneath :lol: ...
And again on the right hander before the straight.
I chuckled to myself as I rode through his more than generous tyre smoke.
He was trying to best of his ability and did pretty well I reckon ;) ...

Brett,
You also reckon with more time in the saddle you will catch and pass me, I hope so too ;) .
But before that a word of advice, sort out the style.
You need to decide what your doing round the 3 apex for instance.
Your hanging off the bike like a road rider but with your foot out?
Weight the outside peg, tip it in MX style, elbows up and serve the fucking thing.
It will only slide, no wonder I could ride round you..
Sort that out and it will be harder for me to catch you inside 3 laps on the 250.
This is constructive mentoring not putting you down mate OK.
I hate seeing blokes who love their bikes going down the road without the bike. :D

[Sibbo]

I was developing a new style of riding. Sibbo Style.

By hanging off a bit to the inside, I was keeping the bike upright, so more contact patch. By sticking the leg out, more weight to the inside, which will also allow the bike to be more upright, but still give me the ability to slide the boot on the ground in an attempt to keep it upright is it goes wrong.

As the corner is a long sweeper, I feel it is faster to road bike it around. It is one of two sections of track I actually make up ground on you. By about 1/2 way (2nd apex), I start to gain on you. The other is braking at the end of the straight.

But, yes, I do have a lot of work to do. And I do intend on listening carefully to what you have to say. If you want to spend time doing a bit of coaching type work with me, it would be great.

And I forgot to say, the outside peg is constantly being pushed down on very hard on most corners. It instantly makes me feel more settled and confidant, so I do it almost as instinct.

[Muzzard]

I was developing a new style of riding. Sibbo Style.
By hanging off a bit to the inside, I was keeping the bike upright, so more contact patch. By sticking the leg out, more weight to the inside, which will also allow the bike to be more upright, but still give me the ability to slide the boot on the ground in an attempt to keep it upright is it goes wrong.
As the corner is a long sweeper, I feel it is faster to road bike it around. It is one of two sections of track I actually make up ground on you. By about 1/2 way (2nd apex), I start to gain on you. The other is braking at the end of the straight.
And I forgot to say, the outside peg is constantly being pushed down on very hard on most corners. It instantly makes me feel more settled and confidant, so I do it almost as instinct.

Ok... Taking on board the Sibbo Style, please explain to me a few points which I am confused.
Firstly,
Think about how you describe the weight distribution on the bike.
How can you possibly be off the inside of the bike, and still have weight on the outside peg?
This does not lend itself to any contact patch at all.
Do you now see why you binned it both times in the same corner?
Where was the weight as you tipped in and then started to touch the throttle?
Certainly not on the front wheel...
Secondly,
I rode a couple of laps every session (and only once did I enter the track before you and Angus) before getting the tyres warm, you didnt gain on me, when they were warm inside 3 laps on every session I had passed you.
The 3 apex is close to half the total length of the track and the straight about 180 mtrs.
With propelled mass of the 650 coming down the straight and gaining on me on the 250, of course it will feel like you are gaining on me, I am in front so braking and entering the corner before you. :roll:
If you think you were gaining on me on the 3 apex, how was it that I rode past you twice in different sessions, once on the outside and once when you yelled 'Fark' as I went in underneath.
That corner is the end of the 3 apex.
I couldnt pass you if you were quicker :?: .
Think Brett.
Best bet for mentoring from Muzz.
Close mouth, open throttle, think fast, ride faster, do what I do :D ...

[Wobbly]

Well you can both take turns passing me if you like :lol2:

[Muzzard]

With the possibility of a licenced Cafe on the site in the future,
You will be piss easy, excuse the play on words, to pass every lap mate. :lol:
Like the track pictured in Steves thread on the catch bottles.
Fancy putting the dirt section around the Beer Garden,
Handy to wash down the dusty throat as a spectator, but a hell of a distraction when your bike keeps turning right into the pub as a racer! :drinkers:

[SMC690]

This is going to be fun. Muahahaha. :)
I want to see how much faster than the 'Berg the KTM is ay Sibbo...... ;)
(Flame suit on, let the games begin!)
Is it just free practice or can we have races?
I'll see if my umbrella girl can get the day off.

[Daws]

Sounds like a bit of a larf, I will hopefully be there.

What's the cost and start time? is it still 10am and $25

What's the dirt:tarmac ratio - If it's too dirty, I'll take some photos instead.

[Muzzard]

Yeah 10am and 25 bills.
No dirt, screw getting my bike dirty...

[Flash]

If we not going to use the dirt I think a CBR is looking good

[Sibbo]

How can you possibly be off the inside of the bike, and still have weight on the outside peg?
When you push down on a peg, the bike moves to that side. If I press down on the right peg, the bike leans to the right. To keep the balance of the bike, I would need to move my body to the left, as to counteract the bike hanging out on the right hand side.

So if you apply this to a corner the bike runs through the corner at the same speed, but just not lent over as much. So you can go through the corner faster, because you can take advantage of additional lean angle.

Do you now see why you binned it both times in the same corner?

The first crash was me being harsh when moving around on the bike and I basically made myself crash by not being smooth. It was a long way before the apex, basically on tip in.

The second time was approaching the apex and I dont think I had any throttle. I was not leaning into the corner, just sitting in line with the bike (ie if the bike is learn over 10deg, I continue that 10deg). The leg was out and the outside foot peg was being pushed down.

Where was the weight as you tipped in and then started to touch the throttle?
I probably should of been sitting further forwards, as I was being pretty lazy and not moving around in the seat at all. Its strange why I crashed there, I was not even dragging a peg, which I had done lap after lap on the YZ. But the not dragging a peg, could be down to the hard berg suspension not compressing as much and makking peg scrapping lean angles much further over.

If you think you were gaining on me on the 3 apex, how was it that I rode past you twice in different sessions, once on the outside and once when you yelled 'Fark' as I went in underneath.
I am talking about when I was behind you. My pace lifted a fair degree when following, as I was trying to look and lean from you and I was going much faster behind you than when I was on my own.

You were also faster through the righ hander after the 3 apex, as I was slowing down too much for it.

Best bet for mentoring from Muzz.
Close mouth, open throttle, think fast, ride faster, do what I do :D ...
I think if I progressivly get on the gas sooner and harder, it will be very helpful. I need to use that 160 to good effect!

[Muzzard]

Riding stance for the corners is all fucked up and your reasoning behind it is just as bad mate. :roll:
I wish we could get a snippet of helmet cam so you could see yourself and then understand what you are doing arse about.
Seriously I have never seen anyone do what you are attempting to do and get any improvement.
You look from behind like a cross between someone about to crap in an asian toilet and an emu at full flight...
Either sit back on the bike, weight more of the outside and pull the leg in a bit but still run it on the ground if you must,
Or get some knee sliders, start to learn how to powerslide properly and ride like you stole it :twisted: ...

[Sibbo]

So should I just MX next track day?

[Flash]

Sibbo forget everything and ride it exhactly like the yz and I mean exhactly. You'll feel more comfortable and you might go even faster. That's how I ride there and on the road and I scrape my pegs everytime I get on the track (sometimes on the road) and that long left hander is where I was struggling the most to keep up with Muzz, I found he could open up the throttle through there and if I even breathed on it I would just do big slides. What I have to work on is to lean in a little more and not push the bike down quite as much, as I was rolling off the edge of the rear.
Ride it like the YZ and get used to it and you'll end up fast with big slides!! :up:

I have to work the next track day but I'll bring a stopwatch for the one after and we'll see who is who :)

[Sibbo]

I need to rig up the bar mounted switch for my berg lap timer and I will be able to keep tabs on how I improve with different styles.

I think I will be riding MX, at the mx track on the YZ, so dont think I will be at the next track day, but I have to check the race calander.

[Muzzard]

Come on Sibbo,
We are trying to help you.
Go ride the YZ on the off weekends, and then it will feel more natural to get on the Berg at the GPTC, and ride it the same only with the better grip. :D
Practice will make you quicker...

[shane]

hay sibbo
if you read my reply to your backing it in article , you and see matt and i both have totally diferent styles , but our lap time are the same . thats the beauty of supermoto there is no right way , its a combination of different styles .
you have a headstart because you come from a mx background .so just ride the whels off the bitch ,will be carving muzz up in no time , but to do that you need track time and lots of it .
one more thing if you want a weekend away i have a spare 450 and a cart track 6.5 min from my front gate you could aways come over for a few days practice jet star just started flights from melb to bangkok very very cheap

[Sibbo]

Come on Sibbo, We are trying to help you.
I know.
Practice will make you quicker...
True, but at the moment, it will be once a month at the track (if the track days were sundays, it would be more). Over summer, it will be every 2 weeks. Plus I will spend as many sundays as I can carving my mates up on their plastic fantastics up in the hills.

thats the beauty of supermoto there is no right way , its a combination of different styles.
I will play around with different approaches next track day and see which one is quicker and feels more comfortable.

will be carving muzz up in no time
The journey will be a long and hard one, but it will be worth it :D

one more thing if you want a weekend away i have a spare 450 and a cart track 6.5 min from my front gate you could aways come over for a few days practice jet star just started flights from melb to bangkok very very cheap
Thank you, that is a bloody generous offer. Let me get the finances sorted (the berg put a fair old dent in it) and I might just have to take you up on that.

[Muzzard]

I reckon you should have a fiddle with the suspension a bit, maybe soften it a touch in the compression and remain the same on the rebound cause it felt so harsh in the front, and drop the tyre pressures down to 22PSI and see how it tracks the 3 apex then.
You will faster but you have to keep the elbows up, centre the weight onto the linear distribution line through the wheels to press the contact patch firmly and evenly, get the gear you want well before by short shifting as we do, then just feather the throttle and feed it slowly as you go round.
The off camber and negative ground effect of the corner means its about throttle and weight and when to use both.
You will find the next right hander so much easier to ride and thats where you will be able to sneak the advantage to outrun me down the straight.
Quicker through there and I have no where near the power needed to catch you. ;)

[Flash]

I recon the 250 is the bike to have there, light and nimble.

[Muzzard]

I'll let you know Ash...
I may have something bigger to punt there soon. ;)

[Flash]

:up:

[shane]

I'll let you know Ash...
I may have something bigger to punt there soon. ;)
Do tell ?????? what you looking at muzz

[Muzzard]

I am looking real closely at a KTM, trying to decide whether I should just get the 625 and add the bigger tank for my use here, or the 640 and do the engine mods like a carb swap that the 625 has standard. :?
Pretty well the same money by the time I finish with a pair of tunes at least to roll from the shop with ;) .
I haven't started haggling with prices on each model and the accessories yet, but have been doing the early hours thing too mostly scouring for nice bits for KTM 625/640's.
Looked all over the place for pipes and have found a few listings for up to 05 models but nothing except for the Hard Parts Akropovics for the twin setup.
Arrow list for the 525 etc but not the 625/640 with twin mufflers.
Wings seem to list to but no pictures or details.
I would really like to know what I can about the availability of bling bits as the bike has got to be unique as far as I am concerned.
Already found some white plastics, and that can be matched with the black ones and...
Europe has shitloads of hotup KTM stuff and I'll be in Lorenzo's ear for a few links...
I know you aint overly fond of the oranges mate, but I need something to cart the missus too :roll: ...
I have been generously offered the use of a demonstration model available in this form by a friend, as well as the twin that I really want but then again cant decide, the 950 Motard or the 990 SD.
Mmmm,.. Titanium 990SD 8) .

[Muzzard]

I think the demo single has already been fitted with tunes too :twisted:
Its not a big priority to buy a bike straight away but I would like to do something before Christmas,..
Might just keep that bad boy demo and do the deal yet ;) ...
Thinking Thinking...

[shane]

choices choices , in a perfect world you could get the 950SM for the street and the 450/525 SMR for trackdays , then again if you keep the YZF mooster for track days and the 950 for the street and a few days at winton you can have the best of both worlds

[Muzzard]

I'm sort of leaning that way too mate.
The 990 grabs me though, the FI engine, and the seating might suit my rooted spine better I think to have the tank to hang over a bit.
Would make a better big track and road ride.
Winton would be fun.
The 950 would also be nice but its dearer again and makes power differently I am told.
I have also been offered a days ride on either bike from the same friend and will very shortly be taking him up on the offer.
Accordingly I would be inclined to buy from the same friend, most likely the demo I ride when he is finished with it ;)
Tania likes the 950 in black not that has too much to do with the purchase, but she also thinks the 990 in Titanium is horny :shock: ...

[Muzzard]

A week to the next track day at GPTC, and hope the weathers gonna be OK.
We have just got winter here in Wangaratta, it arrived today :roll:
Likely starters apart from me?

[Wobbly]

Hope so :) So sibbo, you taking the trailer to the track...? :-k

[Muzzard]

Weather man lying bastards that they are,
reckons it will be like 20 degrees and fine Friday,
18 and scattered showers clearing early on Saturday as usual :roll: , and Sunday 25 and fine...

Better than being too hot though.

[dangermouse1100]

I would dearly love to come & have a go, have never ridden in a race environment, would be interesting to see how far i go before falling off.
I would be the slowest on track & probably get in your way. Still need the motard rims, leather pants & boots to be complete, but the biggest problem is orchards are extremely busy at this time of year. If i can get time away i will come down & have a look & see how it's done. Have fun :D

[speaksgeek]

Come on down dangermouse1100, last time was my first day on the track, and it was a blast. No pressure to be a hero at all.

I'm keen, but not much of a battler with the weather, so if it rains, not much chance I'll be there. Trying to keep the day off from work.

[Muzzard]

Come on down Danger if you can drag yourself from the orchard.
I have a pair of size 10's you can use, and shortly, thanks to Shane a set of leathers will be available for fellas wanting to have a go, but have little or no gear.
T-Shirts are also on the way thanks again to Shane... (Availability TBA)
No pressure track day mate ;) .
If it rains early in the day, it is usually good to go pretty quickly if theres a breeze.
No dirt section until we sort it out a bit I think, and that will be once under new management I suspect.

[Wobbly]

Friggen kdx is turning out to be a prick to try and start :? Will pick up a handfull of sparkies this week though, but might need a bit of pushing ... muzz, is your ute rear wheel drive / non-LSD? I've got some rollers in the shed......

[Muzzard]

Yeah we can do that no problem ;)
Better than a 160 Honda on a stick mate ;)
Is the choke worn and not fully engaging like some seem to do after a while?
Every Kawasaki I have had usually is pull the choke out, no throttle and kick it, fires usually after the 2nd and will run on the third :?

[Sibbo]

So sibbo, you taking the trailer to the track...? :-k
Not this track day, the YZ is being ridden instead. But I will be taking the trailor the next track day after that.

[Muzzard]

Dont stress Neil.
I will make the 90 odd km deviation each way to collect you mate, no problems ;)

Are you for friggin' real Sibbo?
Nunawading MX track will be catering to the kids for a while yet.
Are they in need of numbers?
If your gonna ride MX at least go to an adult track like Frankston. :lol:
Dont bother with the trailer for the next track day mate.
You might be there by yourself...

[Sibbo]

Are you for friggin' real Sibbo?
Nunawading MX track will be catering to the kids for a while yet.
Are they in need of numbers?
Yes I am.
I know the problems we face with numbers and S.Morang. But you cant lump the entire responsibility on me to attend every track day. I will do what I can and I feel once a month is sufficient for me. There are many others that can and should attend also, so a shout out to everyone else could be in order.

[Muzzard]

I am not asking you to attend every track day Brett.
I am not asking you to do anything at all...

If you dont feel some form of responsibility to see this track day deal work through attendance that is within your power to do, and after spending all that money on a new bike, posting here for others to see how good it can be, then others are right, and apathy is what fucks motorcycle sport in Australia from advancing, and I should close the website down, sell my bike and pull the doona over my fucking head!

Understand mate,
I'm not having a go at you.
I just think that to get the track days happening with reasonable success we should be trying our hardest now, cause MX will and has been there for a while ;)

[Muzzard]

After reading these back today,
Yep, it sure reads like I'm having a go at you Brett, and I sincerely apologise for that.
I sort of just take for granted you would be there, you've been here since the start, before you even had a bike, and I assumed you would be as keen as mustard cause you seem so intense about it too...
Sorry mate :oops:
See you the one after then? :D

[SMC690]

Jeez I hope it's dry on Friday evening (ride home) & Saturday.
I got myself a very special set of licorice tyres to abuse just for the occasion, lol. :)

[Wobbly]

Well I've just spilt kero allover mine, so should be fun :lol2:

[Sibbo]

Sorry mate :oops:
See you the one after then? :D
Dont worry ;)
Be there the next one, with everyone else :)

[Muzzard]

I'd just like some with tread left on the left hand side...
That Distanzia will be required next track day Juz,
Cant do both this fortnight though :roll:
You gonna run some slicks Juz :twisted:

[SMC690]

Yes Muzz. I saw them last night & had to have a set.
Have to decide compounds tonight, lol, to get them for Friday.
Soft front, Medium rear I think as I'm nill concerned about wear, more concerned about a running bike to ride home on if all bones are still intact.. ;)

[Muzzard]

Sounds good to me Justin, soft/medium I reckon would work OK there ;)

[Daws]

Juz, Are you going to ride out there on slicks?!

Looking forward to the morning, then drinking a bit of beer in the arvo!

[SMC690]

No, I'd never do that Paul.
That would be naughty.
I'll buy a XR6 Turbo ute tomorrow to cart it in. ;)
I wish.

[Bomber640]

Where is this track at sth morang? Actually, WTF is sth morang? Is anyone riding out there from the city/NE suburbs on Sat morning? I've got my mum, my brother and his girlfriend visiting and a grand final barbeque but I might be able to slip away in the morning to have a quick, hungover peep.

[SMC690]

Sweet, another LC4 coming. :)

[Wobbly]

Head straight up plenty road, past the ring road, then turn left onto mcdonalds road at the roundabout. Drive for a couple hundred meters and its on your right hand side, just before the shell (the driveway heading in goes next to a plant shop just behind the servo) :up:

[Muzzard]

Neil and I have discussed a bit of a BBQ of our own at GPTC on Saturday.
Tania, (my wife) will bring an esky and some cold drinks,
Neil has a small cooktop that screws to a bottle, and I have a gas BBQ with a bottle outta test :roll: so if anyone is in possession of a decent gas camping BBQ/bottle that will fit the round style Companion camping BBQ's that could please bring it, it would be appreciated :D
I will pick up some snags and a bit of salad to go in some bread and its gotta be better to talk shit between sessions while stuffing your face with a snag in bread and a cold drink than just talk shit right? :lol:

There seems a bit more interest this week with Dave and his brother travelling from Merrigum, and a few more local blokes expressing interest too, so...
Neil,
I know its a big ask at late notice, but do you think we could maybe rig up the helcam to get some downloadable stuff for the site ... mate ;)

[Flash]

I'mn stuck working but I have a bottle that you can use if it's the right fitting(the same you saw last time yo uwere at my place)


Hamp said he might try to get there this week if he's OK (he's done a bit of damage to his hand but he sound OK)
I have to work unfortunatly but it will help me be there a bit more in the future ;)

[Wobbly]

I've got my camping gas bottle recharged now, and I've also got a 3 legged bbq thingo which hasn't seen the light of day in a while ... so should be good ... I'll have a look at getting the helcam thinggy working .....

[Muzzard]

I'll bring our poxy little shelter as well then :roll:
Keeps the sun off at least ;)

That 3 legged thing you speak so highly of Neil is probably the same as my 3 legged thingy too ;)

Thanks Ash...
When did you speak to Hamp?
It would be good to see his ugly mug there too ;)

[Sibbo]

Sounds like a great day, I hope you will all be there in 2 weeks.

[Muzzard]

We will be there mate,
but you know how hindsight is a wonderful teacher, and you just said sounds like it might be a great day?
Well, maybe it might be raining next track day :lol:
Come on mate,
You know you wanna have a snag in bread with us ;), better than a 'sand'-wich with ya dirt mates.
Jeez, sometimes I crack myself up...

[Muzzard]

Australian Government Bureau of Meteorology
Victoria

Melbourne Forecast
Issued at 4:10 pm EST on Friday 29 September 2006

Warning Summary
Nil.

Forecast for Friday evening
Mainly fine with just a brief shower or two. Mostly cloudy with moderate west to
southwesterly wind.

Precis: Brief shower or two.

Forecast for Saturday
Fine. Morning cloud then a mostly sunny afternoon with light wind, loud to very loud exhaust noise, some patchy tyre smoke throughout the day, and possible chance of squealing tyres.

Precis: Fine. Mostly sunny afternoon, Sprinkling of fools on bikes
City: Min 9 Max 20

Laverton: Min 7 Max 19 Yarra Glen: Min 4 Max 19
Tullamarine: Min 6 Max 19 Mt Dandenong: Min 5 Max 15
Watsonia: Min 6 Max 19 Scoresby: Min 6 Max 19
Frankston: Min 7 Max 17 Geelong: Min 7 Max 18
G.P.T.C: Min Fast Max Faster

UV Index: 6 [high] reducing to 4 [moderate] under cloud.

Sunday Late change. Some muscle soreness. Min 9 Max 26
Monday Few showers clearing later. Min 12 Max 17
Tuesday Fine. Service bike. Min 8 Max 20
Wednesday Fine. Min 10 Max 24
Thursday Fine. Min 14 Max 29
Friday Mainly fine. Min 15 Max 23
Thinking about riding the next day.

The next routine foreskin will be issued at 10:50 pm EST Fuck Knows.

Looks good for a reasonable day at the track! :D

[Wobbly]

:up:

[speaksgeek]

I'm in, pumped.

Is there anything I should bring for putting on the bbq?

[SMC690]

Waiting for the wife to bring me home a can of Red Bull to make a catch can for tomorrow. :)
These vodka can's are a bit hard to zip tie in behind the frame.
Got a factory catch can today but it looks like it only fit's the SMR's. :(

Thanks for the edited forecast Muzz, lol. :)

[Daws]

Do you need a catch can for GPTC? I'd better bring some zip ties just in case (and Red Bull)

[Flash]

I'm working tomorrow but I think I'll have a run at the following one.

[Muzzard]

Tania has picked up a couple of kgs of snags and a kilo of pasta salad,
Also a couple of bottles of juice, and we can get bread and some onions on the way...
Anything you would like to add feel free Angus ;)
Ice is at the servo next door, as is the cold Red Bull's.

[SMC690]

A most excellent day!
Nice and sunny and great day for traction and some good laps put in by all. :)
I didn't see anyone without a grin on their faces most of the day.
Some of the video footage is going to be good value as there were several cams doing the rounds, lol. :D
Big thanks to Muzz for the BBQ and tent.

[dangermouse1100]

Was great to get there finaly, :D yes it was a great day, :D 3 cheers to Muzz & Tania for the bbq & drinks, Thanks. :D Cant wipe that smile off my face yet :D

[Flash]

Good stuff guys!!
Wish I could have been there perfect weather!!

[shane]

good to see everyone had a blast :D
good day over here also :) the track was damp for morning practice and so so slippery , had been under water for the last week so very dirty and lots of green slimy stuff , but it is supermoto and thats what there made for :D
30 min befor the fist race down come the rain :cry: :cry: , on when the wets and off we went , i lead untill 2 laps to go when i lost the front then the back then the front again :shock: kept it up but matt got a run on me, despite by best effort to run him onto the grass {rubbing is racing right} tried several times to get back by, but could not make it happen , matt won but now the sun was coming out :D :D .
slicks went back on ready for the next race ,i had to win to take the overall. i got a great start and pushed as hard as i could getting sat out the seat 2-3 times per lap :shock: :shock: matt was about 30 meters behind and i couldnt shake the bastard ,but he was having the same problems every time he pushed harder he would get thrown up out the seat off the damp patches {boot marks on the end can to prove it :lol: } but i kept it rubber bits down for the win and the overall :D :D :D
so a great day ill post some pics latter cheers

[Wobbly]

Pics and vids to come :)

[Flash]

good to see everyone had a blast :D
good day over here also :) the track was damp for morning practice and so so slippery , had been under water for the last week so very dirty and lots of green slimy stuff , but it is supermoto and thats what there made for :D
30 min befor the fist race down come the rain :cry: :cry: , on when the wets and off we went , i lead untill 2 laps to go when i lost the front then the back then the front again :shock: kept it up but matt got a run on me, despite by best effort to run him onto the grass {rubbing is racing right} tried several times to get back by, but could not make it happen , matt won but now the sun was coming out :D :D .
slicks went back on ready for the next race ,i had to win to take the overall. i got a great start and pushed as hard as i could getting sat out the seat 2-3 times per lap :shock: :shock: matt was about 30 meters behind and i couldnt shake the bastard ,but he was having the same problems every time he pushed harder he would get thrown up out the seat off the damp patches {boot marks on the end can to prove it :lol: } but i kept it rubber bits down for the win and the overall :D :D :D
so a great day ill post some pics latter cheers


Look forward to it!!

[Flash]

Pics and vids to come :)

See previous message :D

[Daws]

A great day was had - Good to put faces to names and a BIG thankyou to Muzz and Tania for the barbie and hospitality. :up:

Looking forward to the next one. :roost:

*edit* I just measured the GPTC track using google earth (perhaps not the most accurate but I checked by measuring a known distance - Phillip Island @ 4.45km and it was spot on) the track is just under 500 meteres long - I did about 97 km round the track today - That's 200+ laps! This means, the length of the GPTC in comparison to Phillip island is equal to the distance from the bridge {over Gardner straight] to the mid point of turn 1!

[Flash]

So how many turned up in total?

[SMC690]

Me, Paul, Neil, Muzz & Tania (Who I forgot to also thank earlier doh :( sorry) Angus, Brett (Bomber640) who came early but had to go. Mark, Danger Dave, his brother, re-entity, Chris B-Components and his cuz? Chefmoto in plaster. A guy I didn't know on an R1 dropped down but didn't ride, lol.
Who have I forgotten?
Nearly 20.

Just saw on tv that Bayliss is on pole for Superbikes tonight. Sweet. :)
If you have pay tv today there is World FIM Motocross, Bristish Motocross C'Ships, World Superbikes & Road Racing Championships Cookstown 100.
I better mow the lawn early. :)

[Flash]

Shit hot!!

[speaksgeek]

The guy on the R1 was my mate from another forum - looking like a pending convert.

I've got heaps of pics to sort through - haven't been home yet so doing them tonight. Also GPS track from inside and out.
I had a great day, in spite of 3 crashes. No real damage to speak of, all is good (yay for motards!).

[dicky]

Juz was lapping in 30s, Muzz in 29, both taken on clear laps.
If any of the 450 guys had been there I reckon the times would have been quicker, the competition bring out the real racer ;)
dicky

[SMC690]

Shit, I knew I left someone out. Doh.
Dicky came and also brought a mate to ride over his other bike. :)
Sorry dude.
You must have got me on a my best lap if I was only a second slower than Muzz!

[Wobbly]

Ok peeps, there's a south morang gallery up now, so post away with all your pics and video footage at the following link....

>>>Clicky Here (http://www.vsmr.net/modules.php?set_albumName=south_morang_2006-09-30&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php)<<<

I'm working on mixing up the video footage with a bit of audio and recompressing for space with a high and low quality version for each...

[speaksgeek]

My photos are up and available.

http://www.speaks.geek.nz/gallery2/

[Wobbly]

Hey what are you guys pointing and laughing at? :lol2:

http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/DSC_2514.jpg

[Muzzard]

They have already followed you around and are pointing to the hinge in the rear mudguard :lol: ...

Good trip down and back, but a shit load better in between :D
Thankyou to the blokes who made the trek, a special mention for Dave and Anthony, a big distance to ride and do a track day in, especially given the time, expense and effort to get prepared, and then to punt the big DR around on 'meager to say the least tyres' as they did :up:
Very well done Fellas.
Several blokes came in and although didnt ride, I think they also enjoyed what they saw and affirmed that with 'Yes I will be back next time' type statements, See you then ;) .. Dicky in November maybe, Stuart, Mark, and Craig the mini moto pilot as soon as he can operate a throttle again ;)
Those who did ride also as Tania said on the way home 'were smiling ear to ear as they took off their helmets'. :D ..
Justin brought out the big guns with slick fitted, factory cut Michelins too, and proceeded to buff them off a tad, before having to almost buff the inside of his leathers after a slight momentary lack of grip :toilet: , only for a moment, :lol: as the feet came out a bit like Shane was describing, requiring a rethink and reattack at the next session.
Paul was like a man who had just discovered sex and cocaine in the same day :smokin: , and I have no doubt he will be back after studying the video and be quicker next time round..
Brett only rode the first session I think and was required elsewhere so he also was happy to return next availability.
Neil porpoised his was round like he was at Sea World in the tank with them, on the KDX fitted with the special dive, dive, dive submarine forks to help the Sea World ride, and the back of that KDX got so green at the end of the back straight :lol: ...
The bike did remarkably well really, and Sibbo woulda loved it cause it made a really nice exhaust note going round the 3 apex and as it peak revved down the back straight through the gears, but he was eating sandwiches at Nunawading ;) ...
Thanks for the hospitality Neil, and so much more relaxed than having to cater to the family or rush home after riding most of the day.
Angus was attacking the track like a man possessed but unfortunately his possession was that of the grass at the end of the straight, and the tarmac on the very end of 'Shit Corner' as will be now known, for when we ever run backwards again :roll:...
I hate it when my mates fall off their bikes and its worse when you see it happen, :(
He was still smiling when the session finished and as the boys hooked in and repaired the minor misalignment to the barkbuster. :?
Chris and his brother in law (I'm sorry about your name because I have forgot) also sent the big Berg round like a missile for several sessions and buffed off a new set of tyres Chris had fitted earlier that day. :P
All in all, I think the general outcome of the day was a success in every way even given the few slight off track excursions.
Tania was happy to just be there and chat with the people her husband 'speaks to on the internet' put names to faces, and generally assist.
She is also very appreciative of the thanks you have passed to her for her efforts with the food and drinks.
She was thrilled when Angus' girlfriend Sarina came in to watch him do his thing, there was another girl!
I can only encourage you to invite your wives and girlfriends to come and join in with not only what you are doing but also to keep my missus company :lol:
I enjoyed myself again as I always do when I'm riding my bike with some mates, and hope I didnt put any of you off by stuffing it in the inside now and again, but I like to give yo a taste of what it can be like if you haven't had the opportunity to do other track days where blokes you dont know are also buzzing around, or racing where its ever man for himself and you have to have an ability to stand it up or lay it over to get through the corner.
I dont think it was too upsetting to any of you and had a couple of good runs trying to round up the 3 big KTM's on the 3 apex using wide line and I think Paul and Angus both did very well to get big bikes like the LC4's around there as fast as they were going on the Pirelli's.
Thanks to Braxton for giving me a light for my cigarette :lol:
Oh, yeah, my tyres are fucked :cry: ...
Thanks for coming boys and the help throughout the day. ;)
I think with some better preparation over the next fortnight, we could have a really good day 14 October, weather permitting...

[Wobbly]

Btw, I have another cam that anyone can have a lend of if they want. I gave paul one basically the same as the one I was using but I have another spare, but it's significantly larger as it has infa-red LEDs on it - its about 2 inches in diameter so would only be usable being mounted on the bike somewhere. But its free - let me know if anyone wants to have a play and I'll bring it to the next track day :)

[Muzzard]

Mount it to the Husky when you get it back on the side of the motor so you can see the front wheel in the picture.
I love them low mounted cams showing geometric forces in close, real time. :twisted:

[SMC690]

I might give it a try if thats ok Neil if I get a recorder shortly.
I have a spare headlight mask with no headlight in it that it might mount in nicely (somehow). :)

[Flash]

Juz was lapping in 30s, Muzz in 29, both taken on clear laps.
If any of the 450 guys had been there I reckon the times would have been quicker, the competition bring out the real racer ;)
dicky

No 450 as of tomorrow :cry:

[Wobbly]

No probs juz, i'll bring it along to the next track day. The advantage with it if you can get it mounted is that you can use it at night due to the IR LEDs...

Ash - I can't believe you actually bought a bike!?!?! :shock: :lol2:

[Wobbly]

Well that was a good day on saturday, good turn out, good group of people and much fun. The little-bike-that-could went ok though I was suffering from a bit of a lack of drive due to a slipping clutch and my ability to go around corners was somewhat hampered by the massive amount of suspension dive :shock: But that's easily fixable and we'll see how we go next time :)

It was excellent to see quite a few tards out, especially as this will be an important time for us in the transition of the track to the new owners, so that we can be seen to be using the facilities, generating good numbers and bringing revenue into the facility. This will be very important of course once they go through with any new works on the track and ammeneties that will of course have to be funded.

The helmet cam worked ok even with its makeshift taping of batteries to helmet ;) and after a bit of editing the first helmet cam video is up. Unfortunately its only me wobbling around so you'll just have to imagine it was someone going fast ;)

http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_3_large.avi

It's pretty weighty though at 143Mb, but if enough people cry I can put up a 65mb version thats lower quality, but I figured if you'd wait to download 60meg then you may as well get the high quality one anyway.

If anyone has any codec problems try downloading the latest xvid codec from http://www.xvidmovies.com/codec/

[ZuluFoot]

Phwoar! I'm so jealous, lookes like you all had a blast, good ride reports also.

Wheels is what I need, wheels! small little wheels...

[Wobbly]

Or a set of road tyres for those rims ;)

[dangermouse1100]

I had a great day there, as i said in my earlier post, i'm still grinning :D .
I was surprised at how well the dr stuck to the corners on standard rims & tyres. You just never know till you give it a go. The only down side for me is getting there, 180 km there & i clocked up nearly 80 km on the track(my brothers time included) then 180km back home. So i had a pretty sore butt when i got home, but i'm still grinning from the ride at the track :D . I hope to get there again soon, practice, i want to do supermoto slides, so cool. Thanks for a great day fellas, look forward to seeing you all again soon.
P.S. My boss was very impressed with the scraping of the footpegs & arriving back home in 1 piece. :)

[Muzzard]

Those slides were well and truly on the way to happening and already really cool for being done on OEM sized tyres Dave.
I watched you a few times from behind and the rear was smoking and hanging out there mate.
Just more practice and confidence, and some fat tyres would help a shit load too :lol:

[Muzzard]

Ash - I can't believe you actually bought a bike!?!?! :shock: :lol2:

Do tell then Ash,
What ya got now then? :shock:

[Flash]

Lets just say it's just under 600cc :cry:

[Sibbo]

Hang on.....whats just under 600cc.....like 599?

U didn't buy a inline 4 600 road bike?

[Muzzard]

Lets just say it's just under 600cc :cry:

Are you not allowed to tell us Ash? :roll:
I hope its track worthy mate ;)

[SM93]

ASH !!!!!!!!!

u didn't get a tuperware bike did u?

[Sibbo]

He will try and back it into the first corner and crash!!! Then be faced with a min $4K bill!

[Wobbly]

Ok, next video is up, but its an ever weightier sucker at just over 200mb ... so no broadband, no fun, or at least not for a while anyway :)

http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_4_large.thumb.jpg (http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_4_large.avi)

Highlight from this one is watching dangermouse test the tennacity of his tyres :shock: and the impromtu meeting on the track for some bike repairs!

(p.s. highlight of the last vid was watching juz try and dismount his bike in flight !)

[Wobbly]

Boy, the electrons certainly are flat out today :) Next vid out, this one weighs in at 150mb. The highlight (if you could call it that) is angus deciding to work out whether grass grips better than tarmac right in front of me :shock:

http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_6_large.thumb.jpg (http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_6_large.avi)

[Flash]

Lets just say it's just under 600cc :cry:

Are you not allowed to tell us Ash? :roll:



Co's I'm deciding tonight!!

[Wobbly]

Btw let me know if I've got anyone's name and nick combo stuffed up in the vids :)

[SMC690]

Co's I'm deciding tonight!!

Let us help you. :)

[dicky]

Co's I'm deciding tonight!!

What are the choices?
C'mon, you can tell us...
You know you want to...

dicky.

[Muzzard]

Yeah, We can spend your money quicker than you can... :lol:
And isnt this thread about track days?
You need a motard first, then actually make the time to come mate...

[SMC690]

Nicely put together vid Neil, go the Metallica. :)
Gokart ballast, lol!

[Wobbly]

Ok, get downloading the next two juz ;) And since we're at it, here's the final video ... need to get some adjustment for Paul as seems the helmet was riding low on him. Highlight of this video is my super secret braking move just before the end of the session that impressed paul so much :lol2:

http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_7_large.thumb.jpg (http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_7_large.avi)

183mb...

[dangermouse1100]

My brother has had his eyes on a yz125, wants me to go halves with him, after giving him the ride at the track, if he goes ahead he wants road wheels so he can come back :).

[jakestein]

My brother has had his eyes on a yz125, wants me to go halves with him, after giving him the ride at the track, if he goes ahead he wants road wheels so he can come back :).


I will lend you guys wheels on the 14th...

01 and up yz/wr will fit no problems

[Muzzard]

Sounds good to me Dave,
I have a lot of Yamaha bits that could be used too, a new 320 rotor etc.
Loads of plastics and some other assorted goodies ;)
Get Anthonys cash and go get that bike! :lol:
Good on ya Jake, Thats the spirit. ;)

[Daws]

I have cobbled together a quick movie from the footage I took on Saturday but I'm having troubles uploading it to the gallery - I get the "uploading file, please be patient" window but even after an hour it doesn't go away - I'm on a reasonably fast connection and the file is only about 47Mb - Nothing compared to Neil's monsters! Am I missing something really obvious (often the case).

Muzz - Great write up I particularly like the description of my SM riding style :lol:

Neil - I didn't think you were going to put the near miss up! It's lucky there is no microphone on your setup, you will just have to imagine the words! Loving the use of metallica on the first one.

[Wobbly]

Why throw away the best part of the entertainment? :lol2: The gallery upload thing can be a bit dodgy with big files, but try using MS publishing wizard (go to the 'other' tab i think it is in the upload popup to download the registry entry and then follow the instructions). I just recently found this feature in gallery and it works ace for uploading large numbers of photos and may be more reliable for bigger files.

Failing that I'll set up the FTP site and you can FTP it there and I'll do some magic behind the scenes to get it into the gallery ;)

[Wobbly]

I've also managed to recompress the videos to much smaller size without dropping too much quality so will upload them later this week for those bandwidth challenged....

[Daws]

Thanks for that Neil - I downloaded the registy entry and it seems to work quite well... up until the point when I try to log in and it doesn't like my login - Does it require a different login? Yes, I am using the correct password and case!

[Wobbly]

It should just use the same login ... worked for me ok but I can't think of what might be set up differently ... the gallery has its own user credential store but should defer to the ones stored under phpnuke when used in an integrated frameworks such as this...

Let me set up the FTP site and we can use that instead...

[Wobbly]

Ok, I now have much more heavily compressed versions of the movies up the gallery now, and here are the direct links:

http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_3_small.thumb.jpg (http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_3_small.avi) http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_4_small.thumb.jpg (http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_4_small.avi) http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_6_small.thumb.jpg (http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_6_small.avi) http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_7_small.thumb.jpg (http://vsmr.net/albums/south_morang_2006-09-30/South_Morang_2006_Sept_30_7_small.avi)

42, 63, 48 and 50 mb files respectively :up: I've taken down the full sized ones to save on space and bandwidth...